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Hello Peanut Feathers

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Hi peanut, I have so much I want to say to you but do not have time to write a considered post right now however I wanted you to know I had read and understood and will write as soon as I can. The one thing I really want to say is it is not your fault, it really isn’t. I will be back in touch as soon as I can, rest assured you are not ignored or forgotten, Lily x

Hi again Peanut,

It sounds like you have been through a lot and still have a lot to deal with. I know you feel broken now but things will get easier I promise. First of all, you are a long way from home by the sound of it, do you have any support for you in Las Vegas? Has the situation left you in a finicial difficulties? If so these are the things you need to sort out first. Focusing on what you can do to help you will really help at this time.

As for all that has happened with you and your (ex) husband, even without knowing if there were any other issues in your relationship I can tell you he has left because of the addiction. Active Cg’s have problems with commitment, they have low self esteem, and the lengths they go to in order to gamble leave them racked with guilt which makes it hard for them to maintain close relationships. All of these things would almost certainly leave him running scared at the thought of extra commitment.

He may be taking time out to concentrate on his own recovery or he may not want you around because you will be in the way of his gambling, you may never know but which ever it is he probably text you it being over rather than have to deal with the emotional fall out, active Cg’s are often using the addiction because they do not know how or just have too much damage to deal with emotional situations. In order to get control over the addiction (they will never be cured) they need to get professional help, and therapy to deal with the route causes, in your Cg’s case you have already alluded to the possible sources of the problem.

It is important to remember that it is not your fault. 17 years ago I met a man who I fell madly in love with, we got on great in every way and had a blissful 10 months together. He told me he was a Cg and I often saw him gamble but never really realised the seriousness of this. One day out of the blue he ended it telling me he didn’t love me. I was devastated but you can’t make someone love you so I reluctantly moved on but we remained friends at a distance. 8 years later he popped up again, after years of gambling and a prison sentence he was in such deep trouble he was fearing for his life. I took him, helped access therapy, he told me he had loved me all along but that was not enough to stop him gambling even whilst in treatment and we broke up again. Once again I was devastated and thought too that I was broken but I came to this forum and was advised to take care of me which is what I did. I looked at myself, found what I enjoyed and what fulfilled me and became a much better and more well rounded person.

Unbeknown to me my CG did the same and after 7 long years of battling he managed to go into a strong recovery and got back in touch. We are now back together and have a great relationship but none of that could of happened without us both letting go and working on ourselves.

Anyway I digress, the point was he tells me that 17 years ago when he told me he didn’t love me he thinks he really did deep inside but a CG with a deep addiction has no room for love, they are full of addiction, they do not know what they feel themselves. He thinks it was a mixture of trying to protect me and not wanting someone getting in the way of his gambling that made him push me away back then. Whatever it was I know he needed the space for his recovery and I needed the space for mine in order for us to have the relationship we now have. I also know that if he had not begun true recovery and not returned I would have been ok because I had worked on myself and my life to make it what I wanted, he was just the icing on the cake.

There is no way of knowing what will happen in the future and there is no guarantee your husband will make a recovery (although probably far more likely in Hawaii than in Las Vegas I would imagine!) but that doesn’t mean you will not have a happy and fulfilling life. Stop blaming yourself and ignore him blaming you (far easier to blame you than explain his gambling problem to all and sundry). By all means tell him you love him still but I would accept his decision at this stage and get on with looking after you. Whether he comes back or not you need to be the strongest, most complete version of yourself you can be to have a happy life and once you are you may not even want him in your life any more anyway, who knows?

Do keep posting and tell us about your recovery, there is always someone hear willing to listen and support you. Lily x

Hi Peanut Feathers
I saw your post earlier and wrote my reply but I had to go out and I didn’t send it. If I duplicate anything Lily has since said, the reason is that although we are all unique the problem we share is common. I am therefore sending my post without alteration.
Your post, which was certainly not too long, outlines your situation completely making it easier to know how to support you.
I will not be addressing your husband as ex because what you decide to do is down to you and at the moment you are saying you would do anything to be with him, there has been no divorce, so he is not an ‘ex’ at all.
The pattern of addiction you describe is common – millions of people gamble without a problem but CGs do not know until it is too late that for them gambling is not something they can enjoy and walk away from.
I suggest your husband has had a gambling problem for at the very least six years and that encouraging you to join him was a natural way forward for him. Don’t beat yourself up that you went with him because you were not to know there was anything to worry about and he would not have wanted you to know. The addiction to gamble loves secrecy and those who love CGs seldom, if ever, know from the beginning that there is a problem
Many CGs who seek recovery don’t fully accept they have a problem, so although they seem improved, they can begin to believe that they are cured and then a relapse can occur more easily. However the tools given to your husband when he sought support will not be entirely forgotten which raises hope that another stronger recovery will take place, in other words a CG can turn his back on the support given but something hopefully usually rubs off. The happiness your husband experienced will not be forgotten by him but in my opinion he doesn’t know how to access it again and he is living with the wrong person to help him.
As long as someone is willing to enable, the job of facing an addiction will appear insurmountable. Making the leap of faith to live gamble-free takes a lot of hard work, a lot of pain and a lot of courage – your CG is avoiding all these things possibly by living with someone who is not willing or able to support him in the way he needs support.
Marriage to you is not his problem – ‘Gambling’ is. He is married to you but possibly he is afraid of the immensity of a Church wedding which is not overly uncommon with CGs. Family occasions are often overwhelming; they can bring back deep personal memories of other difficult family gatherings. Trying to feel part of something good whilst feeling inadequate can bring on massive feelings of guilt and guilt always brings misery – gambling is a way to avoid that misery.
I am really saddened that your Family group thought that giving an ultimatum to an active CG to recover or leave was a good idea – It is something you will never hear on this site. CGs react to ultimatums usually by running away and/or gambling – your CG’s addiction is the master of manipulation and you are not. His reaction should have been fore-seen by this group and never forwarded as an option.
I think your husband probably truly believed his final message to you before he left for Hawaii but if he is getting enablement to gamble it is probably a lot easier to blame you and indulge his addiction rather than seek recovery.
Do you have any communication with him at all and if so what is? Is it possible for you to move away from Las Vegas to somewhere that doesn’t have gambling as its main reason to exist?
I wouldn’t be writing to you if I didn’t know that the addiction to gamble can be controlled and wonderful lives lived as a result. I know of many, many spouses who have not left and who do enjoy incredibly special lives with their husbands – it isn’t easy but if you are willing not to give up then I will be here for you for as long as you want me to be. Please keep posting Peanut Feathers because there is a lot more to say and I love your username – as Lily says there is always someone listening.
Velvet

Hi Peanut,
Good to see you posting again. Firstly please don’t apologise about giving too much detail as Velvet said it actually helps to know the detail so people can be specific and relevant in their responses.

Secondly as to your comment about wondering if he gambled because you made him unhappy, he gambled because he is a compulsive gambler. No one can make anyone anything, happiness comes within, ability to cope comes from with in often people with this addiction have not been given the tools they need to be happy or to cope so they get into a pattern of distracting themselves from anything highly emotional or difficult by gambling, it is like creating a diversion for themselves. After a while it becomes so habitual that they will almost make excuses to do it, the more they do it the more fall out there is to deal with, then they gamble to escape the feelings associated with that, guilt shame etc.

This brings me on to your next question ‘can a gambler give up just like that?’ The answer is no, it is really tough. They have to first get away from the temptation by self excluding etc, having their money strictly controlled, the people around them to stop enabling then they need to get help, find out their triggers, the reasons behind them and learn new ways of dealing with their emotions in the future (positive emotions can also be a trigger for some), But before all of this and most importantly they have to want to stop.

When you find out your partner or husband is a CG, that they have lied to you, that they are maybe blaming you it feels very much like when someone has had an affair. It can damage yourself esteem, it can feel as if you are to blame, it can feel as if you were not good enough or didn’t do enough to stop them, it may leave you feeling angry, hurt lost or confused. These feelings can be hard to get past and it is important you have support from friends, family and ideally a qualified counselor. It is important to take care of yourself and be able to move forward, you can’t make them recover but you can take charge of your own recovery and in turn that may help them but most importantly it will help you.

Be kind to yourself Lily x

Hi Peanut Feathers
Once again Lily has beaten me with her response and once again I am sending a post I wrote earlier before I had read her words.
I’m sorry that you were too sad to respond because there is always someone here listening and it is common to find that writing relieves pain – putting your thoughts on here will hopefully take a lot of the pain and confusion out of your head.
In answer to your question, if he is a CG, your husband won’t stop gambling just like that – he may abstain for a while but abstinence is not controlling the addiction.
It’s only a thought but your husband may have gone to strip clubs to help him feel he was still the man he would like to be – because the addiction to gamble takes over a CGs mind for 24 hours a day sometimes they struggle with other things – strip clubs are easier than explaining to the women they love why they can’t show affection.
Pride is not something I associate with CGs, your husband will almost certainly be suffering with low self-esteem and no confidence. To hide such feelings he is possibly showing bravado but I suspect your husband is probably more afraid of his feelings than you think. He will not understand why you still love him because he probably feels worthless.
Please keep posting
Velvet

Hi Peanut,
Good to see you posting. There are many elements to your story not the least the fact you live in possibly the worst place in the world for a compulsive gambler. My partner visited Las Vegas once, he ran away with a large sum of money and was penniless with no ticket home within 12 hours! I can see why your husband would want to stay away and for his sake and in the long term yours, I am glad he has.

If your husband is working on his recovery (and the fact he hasn’t stayed in Vagas is a good sign he is) then he will not have room for much else at this time. If your husband loves you and the relationship is one that can be saved his recovery is the only way it could ever be healthy and sustainable. Equally in these situations the recovery of the partner is just as vital. Learning about enablement, moving forward with yourself and nurturing a happy, healthy you is the only way to foster a happy healthy relationship. For these recoveries people often need time and space which may be seen as a selfish thing, actually it is self care and self care needs to happen before we can ever truly care for another person.

Some times when self care leads to self improvement it means we grow away from a person or relationship, sometimes it heals things and brings us closer together either way it needs to happen to allow room for the people involved to blossom and lead fulfilling lives.

In my opinion showing your care from a distance and without demands as you did for his birthday is the best thing you could do, the fact he replied speaks volumes. Getting support for yourself, enjoying your life as it stands and working on any issues you may have isn’t about moving away from him or leaving the marriage behind, it is about doing what is necessary to have a happy life, it means you have space for another person once that improvement starts to take effect.

I can not predict whether or not your husband will return to you and in truth neither can you but if he does (and please don’t let it be in Vagas) then it is far more likely to work out long term if you are both strong in your recoveries. My partner and I were separated for 7 years working on ourselves (not to get back together, we both believed it was over) and now he is back in my life we both appreciate the work the other one has put in and our relationship is the best it has ever been, he is gamble free and I am strong and independent, this enables us to support each other fully and as equals and enjoy our life everyday. If you are having a relationship with an active gambler what you are actually having is a relationship with the addiction and that is not a healthy situation. It is an old cliche I know but you both need to find yourselves before you can re-find each other.

Take care of you, find out what makes you smile and feel complete outside of the relationship, then the way forward will seem less daunting I promise. Lily x

Hi PF
Some CGs have to leave relationships in order to change their lives, some have to leave a place because the temptation to gamble in that place is too great and/or they are recognised as CGs – often it is difficult for the person who is left to know which is the right reason. My CG moved away in order to change his life – he needed to get away from the place that held all his gambling history and all the people who knew him as a CG. When he moved away to new surroundings that held no bad memories he was able to renew himself.
Of course I cannot ‘know’ whether or not your husband feels his life is better without you but I can easily believe that he is better because he is not living in Las Vegas.
Maybe you could text him to let him know you are ok and you wish him well so that he knows you care. If he is genuinely trying to control his addiction it would help him to know you have not been wrecked by his addiction and that he can talk to you even if it is not what you want to hear.
Keep posting PF and look after yourself
Velvet

Hi PF
Please stop blaming yourself for being you and trying to do everything right. No amount of wishing changes the past; we can only change what we do today. I cannot imagine living with a CG and not having ever pleaded, screamed, threatened, tried to understand, felt shame, disappointment, guilt and anger. We are not saints Peanut, the addiction is manipulative and cruel, it changes lives and can ruin them if it is allowed to do so.
It is that last line ‘if it is allowed to do so’ that I think makes us continue to struggle or change into people who go forward and make something good out of something bad. You are blaming yourself for being human – but you never stood a chance. My CG told me that what I had said and done made no difference to what he did and that will be the same for you. You didn’t make him gamble, you didn’t make him walk away without a decent explanation and you didn’t destroy your marriage.
Your husband’s addiction is claiming you every time you think that you are to blame and it is so important that you rise about this unwarranted opinion. I can’t tell you whether to hang on just in case and I cannot tell you to give up and walk away but I can tell you that ‘you’ and your life are very important.
You didn’t make a mistake sending him the message that you did – your husband made the mistake of not replying. He has run away Peanut and that is his mistake, not yours.
I don’t usually write about it but my first husband walked out when my 3 children were very small, never to return. I felt guilt and looked for what I had done wrong because I couldn’t see why he had chosen the path that he had. Sometimes Peanut we try and do everything right but we don’t see that the person we thought we knew is no longer walking on the same road – they have gone off on another path in the belief that the grass is greener on the other side. I felt as you are feeling now for quite a long time but it didn’t help, I learned to live one day at a time and try and make it good. 2 years later I met and married the most wonderful man who adopted my children and gave us such a wonderful life and happiness beyond anything I had ever thought possible. I firmly believe that because I had been hurt so badly, happiness when it came was so much sweeter.
I know I didn’t cause my first husband to leave, I know I did everything a good wife should do – he just wanted something different.
Eat a little of the things you like best Peanut and eat when you feel like it. Just for today look after yourself and do something that you enjoy. Don’t let the addiction of another take away all you pleasures in life. Get close to family and friends and tell them that you don’t need to hear opinions on your husband but you just want support for you. Allow them to care for you and gradually the pain will recede, if it couldn’t be so I wouldn’t be here.
I didn’t find one scrap of your post irritating and I hope you will keep writing.
I hope the following gives you some support
YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND TOMORROW.

There are two days in every week about which we should not worry: two days which should be kept free from fear and apprehension.
One of these days is yesterday with its mistakes and cares, its faults and blunders, its aches and pains. All the money in the world cannot bring back yesterday. Yesterday has passed forever beyond our control. We cannot undo a single act we performed. We cannot erase a single word we said. Yesterday is gone.
The other day we should not worry about is tomorrow with its possible adversities, its burdens, its large promise or poor performance. Tomorrow is also beyond our immediate control.
Tomorrow’s sun will rise, either in splendour or behind a mask of clouds – but it will rise. Until it does, we have no stake in tomorrow, for it is yet unborn.
This leaves only one day – TODAY. Any person can fight the battles of just one day. It is only when you and I add the burdens of these two awful eternities – yesterday and tomorrow – that we break down. It is not the experience of today that drives people mad – it is the remorse or bitterness of something which happened yesterday and the dread of what tomorrow may bring. Let us, therefore, LIVE BUT ONE DAY AT A TIME.

Look after yourself dear Peanut – you are special.
Velvet

Dear Peanut Feathers
I believe I know why you are posting and I am glad that you are – you are definitely not the last one who needs support from this forum.
Your husband is almost definitely a CG and CGs do many things that are unaccountable and unfathomable to non-CGs. I don’t see any harm in remembering the good times and not the bad and I understand why you are focusing on his poor way to leave.
You are not pathetic and your words resound with me – you are lost and confused and that is how most non-CGs feel when the person they love appears to walk away from the support that was unconditionally offered.
You do have a CG in your life and you are married to him which includes vows to stick together through thick and thin, You want to keep those vows but for some inexplicable reason your husband doesn’t want to, either temporarily or permanently, who can tell?
When I say time helps, I am seldom talking about weeks or even months. My brother died suddenly in February and my sister-in-Law is still reeling and will continue to do so for a long time. On his birthday I took her out and we talked and laughed about anything but the fact that it was his birthday. She knew, just as I knew, that we were both thinking about him but there was nothing that would bring him back so we tried to enjoy the day as best we could. We were both remembering his birthday last year but next year the memory will lessen because time is a healer – if we allow it. Next year, hopefully, she will remember what we did together this year.
I think sending a message that appears to end a relationship is cowardly – it has left you with nothing to hang on to – but still you are remembering the good times and I commend you for that. I don’t find you free but I find you trapped by the selfishness of another which may or may not not be ascribed to his addiction.
It is amazing that a man would be ‘surprised’ by a message from his wife. I cannot tell you what to do but if it was me I think I would send the shortest of messages to ask ‘ help me understand why you left when I love you and I am willing to fight for you and our marriage because not knowing ‘why’ is making it impossible for me to move on?’ Maybe he won’t respond, maybe his surprise will be so great he will be struck dumb, maybe he is just gutless and selfish, maybe he will tell you why he left. At the moment you don’t know.
Who can tell if there is anything that can be done or if reaching out here will make any difference – as Mahatma Gandi said ‘ you may never know what results come from your actions but if you do nothing there will be no results.’
Whatever you decide to do Peanut, this forum is here for ‘you’. And you certainly don’t feel like a stranger to me.
Velvet

I have been following this thread for some time now. Thank you Velvet and Lily for keeping Peanut motivated.

Peanut, your last paragraph above caught my attention. I don’t know how your situation is at the moment but one thing is for sure: don’t despair! Don’t give up on yourself just yet. Don’t try to “re-live” a night’s dream in the light of day. To quote your own words, now that your CG is gone, try and burst the bubble. This is not to say that you should completely forget about this man you truly love but at least have mercy on your innocence. Liberate your mind of the contemptuous blames you are imposing upon it. It is hard to admit it but many a times, every action has a reaction. The reason your man left after dropping a text is something that is well known to him. Don’t beat yourself to this every other day. Maybe one day even though it will be late, the truth will surface. Open up your mind and face reality right into its eyes. Feeling sorry, crying and over-thinking will keep you caged. Love is certainly the most beautiful gift anyone can receive because it incorporates a lot and still the worst thing that can happen to anyone upon it’s lose. Your man might be gone temporarily or for good but you can always keep in touch like you are trying to despite his hesitance to accomodate you. Try and understand what you really want. Be it your now somehow gone man or your happiness on this cold world. I am saying cold because not everything that appears splendid retains it’s nature forever. It can be good forever or go bad all of a sudden. I wish you can just be strong enough to listen to your head because the heart isn’t so smart. Choose YOUR YOURSELF over anyone or anything for that matter. I can’t say I know much on love but it is always safe to love yourself as much as you can. Time heals and it is for real. Just find a way to either give up on this man for good or else, you will live to regret and survive on false hopes. Again, that is if nothing has worked so far.

Sorry for the long paragraph above. Peanut, I was introduced to football betting by a group of workmates and two straight years into the activity, I hit rock bottom and I properly did it. I lost everything and the only people that were left with me were my siblings. I lost myself into exclusion and nothing mattered to me at the time. Not even my girlfriend, the few friends or family. I didn’t wish anyone to communicate to me or tell me what to do and what not to do. I had lost all hope and it was a huge task to try and be the previous version of me. I would block anyone who tried to keep in touch and at times I can just lush at them to leave me alone. This was entirely a feeling of guilt and shame that solely originated from my own mind even though the ones trying to reach out had other views; may be a simple greeting and just to know how I was fairing. I felt shattered and a loser and to be certain I was one at the time. I desperately needed to get myself out and I had to do it on my own. I conquered it and I won the battle after analysing every aspect of life on this planet. Luckily, I have never resorted to alcohol or any other depression soothers for that matter. I mean drugs. It was my soul, gambling and my sober mind in the battlefield. Despite the fact that I even lost my job, I didn’t sink any lower and I didn’t want to be anyone’s burden. I had to do odd jobs to feed myself but not to quench my gambling thirst. Then one day, I spotted the many art quality pencils, brushes and oil paints I acquired when I was still on some company’s payroll. I love art and I am so passionate about it. I compared my love for life through this sets of brushes and pencils to the damage my fake lust had on gambling. I picked up my pencils and brushes and I started doing art; something whose time was completely confiscated by gambling, and ever since I have been doing it to engage myself and thankfully, I nolonger crave gambling because I learnt my lessons well. Even though the utopia of the great things that comes with gambling keeps popping in my head, I am always sobber to promise myself that it’s only a wishful thinking through my waking state. I resist it as much as I can and I have learnt to appreciate and save the little money I make. It is beautiful to see this happening to me. I have since been good to everyone and to the many people I am indebted to. I learnt to speak the truth and seek genuine assistance whenever I needed financial assistance for genuine reasons since it was otherwise during my gambling days.

What my story basically means is that if your man can try and fight off any other addictions(say smoking pot), then eventually he will come to his senses and worry about the great things and people he lost for his compulsive behavior. As long as he can accept himself and own the troubles he has since caused, only then will be the person he once was and the bliss will rejuvenate altogether. This was my approach and I can’t say it can work elsewhere and if it does with him, he will definitely turn out being good. For all I know is that, you can’t outgrow a certain behavior and creep into its allies. This will certainly end up being a cycle and going back to old bad habits. I wish him well wherever he is.

Peanut, you are not doing anything wrong but try and understand that you are not the problem but he is. If nothing works out good, then it should be about time you accepted it. Don’t despair because you aren’t responsible, I would suggest you engage your mind into some other beautiful activites out there and find good friends or at least use this platform (Lily&Velvet) to help you find happiness. Sooner or later, things will fall in place. Find the strength you once had and restore hope within yourself. Life will always be short and the best way to live and enjoy it is when we spend much time on the happier end of the scale. Fight off any negativity and always belief in yourself. It is also upon yourself to keep trying to salvage your marriage amd still admit it if it seems to work or you should just quit and move on. We all stumble in life and how we get up and move forward depends on our individual effort. I wish you well and I hope everything falls into place in favor of your happiness.

NB: I couldn’t proof read this composition and so, be lenient just in case it fails coherency test.

To Velvet and Lily, always be blessed. For you Peanut, I wish you strength throughout.

Thank you.

With LOVE.

Maleek.

Hi Peanut
I think, in view of your worry, you could call his friend and ask him to check on your CG. If he is ok then you have lost nothing and if he is in need of help then you have made someone else aware who can possibly help.
Many CGs talk in a similar vein when things are not going well but please don’t make yourself ill worrying when your concern could be unnecessary.
Please update soon, thinking about you
Velvet

Went thru your posts, and wanted to take a brief moment to give some advice that may help. I am a compulsive gambler, in and out of recovery for over 30+ years. Im married with 3 boys ages 11, 9 and 6. Here’s my thoughts :

Start by reading the Serenity Prayer : “God grant me the serenity, to ACCEPT the things I can not change, the COURAGE to change the things I can, and the WISDOM to know the difference. I suggest writing it out and posting it by your bed, then simply say it out loud every morning. It truly is powerful.

Next, I dont know your age but you sound much younger than me (Im about to be 50 next week). I know its painful to love someone with this addiction, Ive put my wife of 14 years thru alot of pain as well. The main difference is I 100% knew I was powerless over my addiction, and put alot of effort into recovery. Ive had several years of sobriety, then relapse, then recover again. Your husband and I will ALWAYS have this disease. Make sure you understand this clearly and honestly. You are fortunate not to have children with your ex, since they would now be innocent victims to his disease as well. You deserve someone who truly loves you and would love your children should you decide to want to have them. You ex doesnt love you or himself right now, the disease doesnt make room for love.

Lastly, some advice. Actions speak louder than words. He 1) Broke the marriage over a text 2) Took off to Hawaii and left you alone in Vegas far from your home country and family/friends 3) Stole from you and lied to you, then blamed you for his actions. That isnt love, that harmful manipulation which us CG’s are experts at. 4) Doesnt respond to your texts 5) Continues to gamble. 

I know this is hard to accept (hence get strength from the serenity prayer) but this is not the actions of someone who loves you. You need to find the strength to love yourself and as hard as it is to read cut the “cancer” being your ex out of your life. I admire you take your vows seriously and want to help, but honestly most of us arent open to help. Your ex is a full blown CG and an expert at escaping. He escapes to gamble, go to strip clubs, even runs to another state. Do yourself a huge favor, google “gam anon meeting Las Vegas” and get to one as soon as possible and DONT HESITATE. There, you will find others that have been thru exactly what you are experiencing and will give you much needed support and advice. I wish you nothing but happiness and someday your own personal freedom from this horrible addiction. You cant save someone who doesnt want to be saved. Start with saving YOURSELF.